California Association of Sunbeam Tiger Owners Forum

Go Back   California Association of Sunbeam Tiger Owners Forum > Sunbeam Tiger > General Tiger Discussion
New Threads

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-05-2016, 02:15 PM
at the beach's Avatar
at the beach at the beach is offline
Member of C.A.T.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 525
Default new Tiger Tales

I just received my new issue of Tiger Tales (July-August) containing an article about Tiger Panhard bars co-authored by Mike Jones and John Logan.

Those gentlemen might be strangers to many of us here on the west coast so I'd like to mention a little about their backgrounds.

John Logan, Sr. is now retired after a long and very successful engineering career with Ford in Dearborn. A few months ago John was displaying his Tiger at a car show when an elderly person in the crowd announced, "When I was a young engineer at Jensen I worked on these Tigers". That was Mike Jones who had handled chassis development for Jensen and was Jensen's Project Engineer for the Tiger.

John and Mike chatted at the show for over an hour and the article in Tiger Tales is a summary of one of the items they discussed.

The background to the Panhard bar changeover is quite interesting to me.

On May 15th, 1964, about a month before the Jensen line started modifications on the production Tigers, Mike was driving AF-4 home after work in a pouring rain. He entered a curve that he had driven earlier that day only to discover in the interim the road had been torn up and concrete barriers were scattered across what had been the road way. Mike swerved off the pavement onto the grassy shoulder only to discover a hidden tree trunk that helped to both pole vault and roll the Tiger. It ended up on its roof, the windshield frame crushed but the GT's hardtop largely intact. He escaped with only bruises and scratches.

Mike has recently told me that after that rollover crash he gave more thought to Tiger handling. The first thing he did was to address the Tiger's asymmetrical Panhard bar as described in this Tiger Tales article. (Later he proposed a design exercise to evaluate the installation of a De Dion rear suspension in a Tiger. Rootes used the prototype he'd crashed, AF-4, for that testing.)

As I recall, Mike eventually became Jensen's Chief Engineer. Later he was the Chief Chassis Engineer for Land Rover and then Lotus. He now lives in the greater Detroit area.

Mike recently accepted STOA's invitation to be their Guest Speaker at next summer's TU which will be held in Sacramento. So next summer we "west coasters" can visit with Mike in person.
Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2016, 05:28 PM
0neoffive's Avatar
0neoffive 0neoffive is offline
Unobtanium Forum Member
Member of C.A.T.
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New Hampshire USA
Posts: 2,028
Cool Ditto

Nice to hear that someone else has been downside up in these mongrel critters . . .
Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 09:30 AM
67 Tiger 67 Tiger is offline
Gold Forum Member
Member of C.A.T.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 281
Default spinning out

Many years ago, I was coming off the freeway. The off-ramp was a long sweeping right turn. I was going too fast, so I took my foot off the gas, and around I went. Didn't flip just a 180. Fortunately nobody else was around and there was no damage, except to my underwear. This happened to me twice, before I learned not to let off the gas. Both times I was making a right turn. I was told by a Tiger expert that the Panhard Bar was the reason for this. Also I was told that the MK2 does not do that because of the relocation.
Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2016, 12:06 PM
dude234 dude234 is offline
Gold Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 182

Interesting story. I met Mike Jones around 10 years ago when he pulled up to my Tiger at a stop light and mentioned he worked on those cars when at Rootes. As I recall he was driving a Porsche Boxster at the time.
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:53 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 2
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
California Association of Sunbeam Tiger Owners