MKIA distributor for sale

Original Sunbeam Tiger MKIA Distributor Z5TF-12127 -C Build date 5CC
May need rebuild . asking price 175.00$ +freight

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Not correct for Tiger. Z5TF-12127 -C is a replacement distro for a 289 4V.

This is correct for a 260 -

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According to Ron Fraser from TEAE ( been making a study on all Tigers Motor)
That distributor is a Tiger 260 MKIA engine specific Number.

5AA is the assembly date = 1st week of Jan 1965

The valve cover ( picture) is from that Tiger. The distributor would be correct for that F21KA engine.

Also on parts supplement 6601334 from Rootes they have another distributor
for the MKI 260 parts C40Z-12127-A

This distributor come form that 260 MKIA motor that supposedly never been touch .



Gilles ???????

I am no part number expert but shouldn't it have a C4Z part number to be correct?

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The Z according to what I have found , meant that was an export distributor !!!

See attached from RON Fraser found on the web !!!![

Gilles

tigresunbeam said:

The Z according to what I have found , meant that was an export distributor !!!

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From Bob Mannel's book, it means it is a replacement distro.

It can not be a MK1 distro as it was made in 65. All the 260's provided for the MK1 Tigers must have 64 or older parts on them. The engines were assembled and shipped to England way before being put into cars in 65.



Z5TF

Z ='s replacement??
5 ='s 5th year of decade
T ='s Truck (1958-65)
F ='s General Parts/Electrical and Electronics Division

OK guys, so as to not talk out of my third point of contact I sent Bob Mannel an email inquiring about the "Z".

Here is what he sent me -

Duke,

I did a little more digging. As I mentioned in my book introduction, I stayed away from non-production applications of the Ford small block V8.
Since the book has been published I have looked more at some of these other applications.

In the case of the Sunbeam Tiger, Ford continued to make 260 V8s for two more years after it concluded its 1964 production use of the engine. The Tigers got many updated parts for its 1965 and 1966 260 V8s. Contrary to convention, these 1965 and later engines were not leftover 1964 versions. Casting number date codes continue to reflect actual manufacturing beyond 1964 production.

The letter Z was not related to the Tiger. Tiger-unique parts with Ford part numbers used a J in the third position. For example C4JZ is a Tiger part number. You will notice in my book on page D-5, the normal 260 distributors (C4OF-12127-A and C4OF-12127-B) were replaced by 1965 versions (C5JF-12127-C and C5JF-12127-B). These are Sunbeam Tiger engineering numbers (J in third position).

Digging deeper, I checked the cross-reference books which given part numbers their engineering number application. For distributors, this cross-reference has provide highly reliable.
C4OZ-12127-A is for a 260 V8 with manual transmission:
. C4OF-12127-A (used on 1964 production 260V V8s)
. C5JF-12127-C (shown as a 1965 replacement)
. Z5TF-12127-C (only shown in the OSI) C4OZ-12127-B is for a 260 V8 with automatic
. C4OF-12127-B (used on 1964 production 260V V8s)
. C5JF-12127-B (shown as a 1965 replacement)

Tigers all had 4-speeds. So, I am inclined to agree that the Z5TF-12127-C is exclusive to the Tiger, although I would not go so far as to say that that is why a Z was used as its first letter. Otherwise, there would not have been a Z5AF-12127-B distributor to replace the 289-4V C4ZF-12127-C distributor, an engine the Tiger never had or was intended to have.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Mexico began 260 V8 and 289 production in 1965 and ran through 1967. The 260 V8 was used in Mexican Falcons and light trucks. The 289 was used in B-600 and F600 trucks as well as Mexican Galaxies and Mustangs. So, it is possible (but I don't know) that the Z5TF distributor got its designation from the light trucks (T for truck) and the Z5AF from the Mexican Galaxie (A for Galaxie), and the Z is for Mexico. All just speculation.

Feel free to use any of this in your discussions on the Sunbeam forum.

Bob Mannel



So....who knows?????

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I imagine , and would not talk for Ron ,but is study is surely base on what Tiger owner have sent him. So If he telling us that Z5TF-12127-C is MKIA Tiger unique distributor for the 260 MKIA , Have to beliieve him , And in Bob Mannels owns words :Tigers all had 4-speeds. So, I am inclined to agree that the Z5TF-12127-C is exclusive to the Tiger . Ron is probably saying that the end of the run Of MKI and MKIA had : the Z5TF-12127-C distributor . The only thing I could not find out is many original Tiger 260 MKIA motors have the distributor Z5TF-12127-C . .

I Own a MKII since 1985 , I do not have a C5AF-12127-M Distriburor ,but I can still drive my car for 8,000 miles every summer. I always like to argue , its make people search . That what I like the most. Hopefully we won't become crazy about casting number like the Austin Healey guys in Canada .

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Gilles

..."Digging deeper, I checked the cross-reference books which given part numbers their engineering number application. For distributors, this cross-reference has provide highly reliable.
C4OZ-12127-A is for a 260 V8 with manual transmission:
. C4OF-12127-A (used on 1964 production 260V V8s)
. C5JF-12127-C (shown as a 1965 replacement)
. Z5TF-12127-C (only shown in the OSI) C4OZ-12127-B is for a 260 V8 with automatic
. C4OF-12127-B (used on 1964 production 260V V8s)
. C5JF-12127-B (shown as a 1965 replacement)

Tigers all had 4-speeds. So, I am inclined to agree that the Z5TF-12127-C is exclusive to the Tiger, although I would not go so far as to say that that is why a Z was used as its first letter. Otherwise, there would not have been a Z5AF-12127-B distributor to replace the 289-4V C4ZF-12127-C distributor, an engine the Tiger never had or was intended to have."...

So what does " only shown in the OSI" mean ??

I have a distributor from an early MK1A here... don't know if it's original but assume so... Z5TF 12127 C 4 M B

It's also available if anyone's interested...