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Moving to suspension on the Tiger.
Pulling the old 12.19" brakes, 2" MII drop spindles and Carrera shock off. Old stuff had nice Wilwood Superlite lug mount calipers and 12.19"x1.25" rotors. With the offset the old hubs it required a wheel spacer for the caliper to clear the rim. Carerra shocks also seemed to be hacked up in an odd way, which means the lower control arm is not right. More on that later. Old spring was 250lbs.
Lastly the rubber MII rubber bushings will likely be removed and replaced with solid style.
The new...
Wilwood Forged spindles, 2" drop. Radial mount Wilwood narrow Superlite race caliper, 13.06x1.25" rotors, Afco double adjustable 37 series shocks, 500lb Eibach springs, and some nice Howe low friction ball joints.
The odd...
This is all on a Hoakenson front end, and for the bottom coil over mounting bolt he used a 9/16" bolt, drilled out the bushing on the shock for some reason. Non-standard and no idea why as most every coil over uses 1/2" mounts. Need to either find a 9/16" to 1/2" reducer bushing for the lower arm or have the mounts cut and re-welded. What a pain in the a$$. Lower bushings look odd too, need to see what's up there.
The nice is the new stuff mostly fits, larger brakes, better calipers, etc.
Still need to see what issues swapping the cross shaft and bushings.
(Picture and comments below as well)
Original Wilwood front parts I did a few years back. SL6 Narrow, Wilwood hubs, hats and rotors on a Mustang II 2" drop spindle. Rest of the suspension was part of the front end package.
New stuff, really 3rd generation. Afco double adjustable shock, Eibach 500in/Lbs spring, Wilwood 13" rotor and updated Wilwood spindle. Brake is still a Narrow Superlite but this one is set up for the Thermolock pistons for better heat rejection.
The shenanigans begin... In pulling the coil over it seems the top bolt is 1/2" and the bottom is a 9/16"???? WTF? Seems either a mistake welding on the brackets on the lower control arm or some mysterious reason for the change. In any case the lower part of the shock bushing was 'hacked' to support the 9/16" bolt. Note : Almost all coil over shocks use 1/2" bolts for the mounts, not 9/16" so will have to fix this.
Looks like a hack job to me. My guess is the lower control arm was made with the wrong sized tube mounts for the bolt and rather then do the arm over 'another solution' was found... and not a good one. I could be missing something but that's my guess.
Afco coilover and Eibach spring fits. However can't mount it with the shaft downwards facing (as desired) without some work. At this point it's fine as is.
Looking ahead it seems the stock style MII cross shafts uses a larger bolt diameter then the new ones that is used for the Delrin bushings. Not to big a deal unless it is.
Tossing on the new Wilwood "stuff" to see if anything looks like it's going to have interference or just not fit. Seems OK. With the new set up, I had to change the Hub offset so the brake caliper and rotor would align properly. In doing so it may be a win-win (other than spending more money on parts) as the rotor and caliper is moved about 0.4" inwards. This will allow me to skip wsing a 1/2" spacer like the old set up. Can still use it but now don't have to. The calipers are Superlite Narrow 6 Piston, which helps fit into rims with issues hitting the inside face.
Wheel test fit, looks good and has about 1/2" of room from the spoke to caliper. About the same as with the spacer on the old set up.
Pulling the old 12.19" brakes, 2" MII drop spindles and Carrera shock off. Old stuff had nice Wilwood Superlite lug mount calipers and 12.19"x1.25" rotors. With the offset the old hubs it required a wheel spacer for the caliper to clear the rim. Carerra shocks also seemed to be hacked up in an odd way, which means the lower control arm is not right. More on that later. Old spring was 250lbs.
Lastly the rubber MII rubber bushings will likely be removed and replaced with solid style.
The new...
Wilwood Forged spindles, 2" drop. Radial mount Wilwood narrow Superlite race caliper, 13.06x1.25" rotors, Afco double adjustable 37 series shocks, 500lb Eibach springs, and some nice Howe low friction ball joints.
The odd...
This is all on a Hoakenson front end, and for the bottom coil over mounting bolt he used a 9/16" bolt, drilled out the bushing on the shock for some reason. Non-standard and no idea why as most every coil over uses 1/2" mounts. Need to either find a 9/16" to 1/2" reducer bushing for the lower arm or have the mounts cut and re-welded. What a pain in the a$$. Lower bushings look odd too, need to see what's up there.
The nice is the new stuff mostly fits, larger brakes, better calipers, etc.
Still need to see what issues swapping the cross shaft and bushings.
(Picture and comments below as well)
Original Wilwood front parts I did a few years back. SL6 Narrow, Wilwood hubs, hats and rotors on a Mustang II 2" drop spindle. Rest of the suspension was part of the front end package.
New stuff, really 3rd generation. Afco double adjustable shock, Eibach 500in/Lbs spring, Wilwood 13" rotor and updated Wilwood spindle. Brake is still a Narrow Superlite but this one is set up for the Thermolock pistons for better heat rejection.
The shenanigans begin... In pulling the coil over it seems the top bolt is 1/2" and the bottom is a 9/16"???? WTF? Seems either a mistake welding on the brackets on the lower control arm or some mysterious reason for the change. In any case the lower part of the shock bushing was 'hacked' to support the 9/16" bolt. Note : Almost all coil over shocks use 1/2" bolts for the mounts, not 9/16" so will have to fix this.
Looks like a hack job to me. My guess is the lower control arm was made with the wrong sized tube mounts for the bolt and rather then do the arm over 'another solution' was found... and not a good one. I could be missing something but that's my guess.
Afco coilover and Eibach spring fits. However can't mount it with the shaft downwards facing (as desired) without some work. At this point it's fine as is.
Looking ahead it seems the stock style MII cross shafts uses a larger bolt diameter then the new ones that is used for the Delrin bushings. Not to big a deal unless it is.
Tossing on the new Wilwood "stuff" to see if anything looks like it's going to have interference or just not fit. Seems OK. With the new set up, I had to change the Hub offset so the brake caliper and rotor would align properly. In doing so it may be a win-win (other than spending more money on parts) as the rotor and caliper is moved about 0.4" inwards. This will allow me to skip wsing a 1/2" spacer like the old set up. Can still use it but now don't have to. The calipers are Superlite Narrow 6 Piston, which helps fit into rims with issues hitting the inside face.
Wheel test fit, looks good and has about 1/2" of room from the spoke to caliper. About the same as with the spacer on the old set up.
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