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Will do.. whats a good number to contact you at? I see you have some things listed on Ebay. Would you make a whole package deal if I purchased all of it?
Update : Here are a few pictures I took of loading the tiger on the trailer. I also carefully removed some the paint off the vin tag with a non abrasive fiber composite scraper that I built its strong to keep its edge but wont scratch the metal. Is there a template I can use to re mark the black lettering?
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The original lettering is silk screened. There is a rub on static cling Letraset method that other Tiger owners have used. Paul Bruehan a artsy type in the Midwest sells them.
People make a huge deal out of original rivets as aside from being TAC'ed is a easier but not conclusive test of originality.
Personally I have seen blank vin plates with silk screened letters offered for sale by some of the oldest members of this group, add to that their admission they have original rivets in their cache of unobtainium hoarded parts. Project cars have been listed for sale on this forum with detached vin plates. What makes a Tiger is a lot of things, try not to disturb them.
As you get into it you will hear stories of how guys grind off the stick welds or other Tiger build specifics then say DOHHHHHH later.
Every other Chevy Ford or other mass produced vehicle has a reproduction or restoration plate available and they claim they do not create a plate that changes the data.
Moondoggie is right do not remove the plate and it is a personal call to wipe away the rest of your silk screened letters and put on the Lettraset ones. I have had big guys in the group tell me they plan to remove and replace theirs for painting, but that said their car has been TAC'ed the certificate has a circled Y or N for car has original rivets.
Things are original once and restored repeatedly.
W. TAC# 821
The original lettering is silk screened. There is a rub on static cling Letraset method that other Tiger owners have used. Paul Bruehan a artsy type in the Midwest sells them.
People make a huge deal out of original rivets as aside from being TAC'ed is a easier but not conclusive test of originality.
Personally I have seen blank vin plates with silk screened letters offered for sale by some of the oldest members of this group, add to that their admission they have original rivets in their cache of unobtainium hoarded parts. Project cars have been listed for sale on this forum with detached vin plates. What makes a Tiger is a lot of things, try not to disturb them.
As you get into it you will hear stories of how guys grind off the stick welds or other Tiger build specifics then say DOHHHHHH later.
Every other Chevy Ford or other mass produced vehicle has a reproduction or restoration plate available and they claim they do not create a plate that changes the data.
Moondoggie is right do not remove the plate and it is a personal call to wipe away the rest of your silk screened letters and put on the Lettraset ones. I have had big guys in the group tell me they plan to remove and replace theirs for painting, but that said their car has been TAC'ed the certificate has a circled Y or N for car has original rivets.
Things are original once and restored repeatedly.
W. TAC# 821
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DITTO VIN PLATE DITTO !!
Put some US issue gorilla tape (carefully trimmed) on that Vin Tag and leave it old, ugly & wounded. The JAL tag also had rust under it because they originally painted over it, but that has never been a serious subject. Once you have some airborn underneath exam pics, there may also be things you want to restore around but not disturb (depending upon condition). You asked for my cell number and I will respond to your e-mail. Like us all, glad to help at keeping em' runnin', randy < willett581@msn.com >
Put some US issue gorilla tape (carefully trimmed) on that Vin Tag and leave it old, ugly & wounded. The JAL tag also had rust under it because they originally painted over it, but that has never been a serious subject. Once you have some airborn underneath exam pics, there may also be things you want to restore around but not disturb (depending upon condition). You asked for my cell number and I will respond to your e-mail. Like us all, glad to help at keeping em' runnin', randy < willett581@msn.com >
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A picture is worth a thousand words so here is my vin plate. The JAL plate was removed for paint and the service plate is a new reproduction and the VIN
plate has gone through three paint jobs and has never been removed. The rivets holding the service plate are nos originals and you can still clearly see
the difference 47 years makes. My Tiger was restored by Bill Martin @ Rootes Group Depot who is also a TAC inspector and Norm Miller has seen the car up close and personal and has issued a build certificate # 0186 and it is also TAC # 0023.........You can never be too careful.....You might want to get the car TAC'd before you start taking it apart
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plate has gone through three paint jobs and has never been removed. The rivets holding the service plate are nos originals and you can still clearly see
the difference 47 years makes. My Tiger was restored by Bill Martin @ Rootes Group Depot who is also a TAC inspector and Norm Miller has seen the car up close and personal and has issued a build certificate # 0186 and it is also TAC # 0023.........You can never be too careful.....You might want to get the car TAC'd before you start taking it apart
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How would I get the car TAC'd?
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If you go to this link you will learn all about the procedure
http://www.stoa-tigerclub.com/tac/tac.html
You will probably have to make a few email contacts with the TAC inspectors
in your area. As a general rule these are done at most large Tiger events..
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This is a photo of what I was talking about. Nothing here that cannot be taken off with a little lacquer thinner. It took me two tries to get it right this pic is of my leftovers. The letters are rubbed on then clear coated. The product has been around for years and hold up well what goes bad first is the clear coat will yellow.
This vin topic has been beaten to death on every Tiger site and makes interesting reading back decades to the e mail archives if you get really bored.
To get back OT everyone likes to see hunks of original horse hair and jute padding and tar paper on a un restored car as well as the original color hiding up under dash behind gas tanks and other hiding places, so post us some pics .
As for the TAC since it is not running go thru the inspector list and see you is closest and offer up a brew and a tour de garage, it worked for me. We have had guys come to a fix in in Anaheim "near Disneyland" then have to head to the beach to meet up with a second or third inspector. One stop shopping is the way to go and worth the 50 bucks it now costs and a really good idea to drag it to the meet as suggested by MD
Lots of sage advice in your thread
This is a photo of what I was talking about. Nothing here that cannot be taken off with a little lacquer thinner. It took me two tries to get it right this pic is of my leftovers. The letters are rubbed on then clear coated. The product has been around for years and hold up well what goes bad first is the clear coat will yellow.
This vin topic has been beaten to death on every Tiger site and makes interesting reading back decades to the e mail archives if you get really bored.
To get back OT everyone likes to see hunks of original horse hair and jute padding and tar paper on a un restored car as well as the original color hiding up under dash behind gas tanks and other hiding places, so post us some pics .
As for the TAC since it is not running go thru the inspector list and see you is closest and offer up a brew and a tour de garage, it worked for me. We have had guys come to a fix in in Anaheim "near Disneyland" then have to head to the beach to meet up with a second or third inspector. One stop shopping is the way to go and worth the 50 bucks it now costs and a really good idea to drag it to the meet as suggested by MD
Lots of sage advice in your thread
I really wish I could make that event. I will however be out of the country in Kuwait City on those days tuning some cars
I take that back.... I did get the engine fired up along with all gauges, lights, wipers, blower motor etc working. She now purrs like a kitten and runs butter smooth. Just need to work on the brakes, driveline, and suspension next.
Once she is running and driving around on her own power I plan to pull her back down to just the body and give her a good cleaning and painting back to original color.
Once she is running and driving around on her own power I plan to pull her back down to just the body and give her a good cleaning and painting back to original color.
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Consider coming to British Auto Fayre in Alpharetta Feb. 23 - trying to get a bunch of Tigers to come...
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Ordered all my rebuild kits today along with a few other pieces to complete the brake system and few things needed to get her mobile. I figure rebuilding the OE parts will be better as I can keep it more original. I already have the pieces pulled off broken down and cleaned so it shouldn't be too long once it all gets here. Hopefully I can get her back together this sunday and maybe even running under her own power
Getting excited as my goal all along has been to get her running and driving, then break it all down to just the body and do a proper resto.
Until then here is a little clip I made the other day. The tach is not accurate to say the least, and the non-factory coolant temp gauge drives me nuts. But she starts and runs amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-70YN80P_0o&feature=youtu.be
Getting excited as my goal all along has been to get her running and driving, then break it all down to just the body and do a proper resto.
Until then here is a little clip I made the other day. The tach is not accurate to say the least, and the non-factory coolant temp gauge drives me nuts. But she starts and runs amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-70YN80P_0o&feature=youtu.be